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Episode 15
LinkedIn User #204,097: 39 Years of TA, Told Straight
with Steve Levy
Steve Levy is LinkedIn user #204,097. He co-founded ATAP. He was doing AI in hiring at Pitney Bowes before AI had a Wikipedia page. Des and Ashley sat down with one of the actual founders of modern TA and asked him to zoom out. A masterclass wrapped in a roast wrapped in an hour of the funniest, sharpest TA conversation we've had all year.
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Episode 14
Off Script: One Year of Talentless
with Desiree Goldey & Ashley King
One year. Thirty-seven episodes. Two hosts who somehow still like each other. For our post-anniversary episode, Des and Ashley turned the mic on themselves — no guest, no script, no agenda beyond "let's actually let people meet us." It's honest, a little messy, and the two of them at their most them.
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Episode 13
Your Origin Story Is the Job Skill Nobody's Hiring For
with T. Tara Turk-Haynes, Founder of Equity Activations
Talentless's 1-Year Anniversary Episode. T. Tara Turk-Haynes — founder of Equity Activations and creator of The Origin Arc framework — joins Des and Ashley to unpack why DEI failed (spoiler: icing over a crumbling cake), what The Origin Arc unlocks for hiring managers and recruiters, why feedback is the talent acquisition crisis nobody is naming, and why your origin story is the most undervalued skill in the room.
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Episode 12
The Talent You Were Trained to Throw Away
with Chason Forehand, Founder of HR-4U Inc. & Creator of Transformation Kitchen™
"People-first" is the most overused, underutilized phrase on LinkedIn. Everyone says it. Almost nobody does it. Chason Forehand — chef, nonprofit founder, and someone who has lived on every side of "unhireable" — sits down with Des and Ashley for a conversation about action over words, profits versus people, and the responsibility recruiters carry in every job description they write.
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Episode 11
Empathy Is Not Soft. It's a Damn Strategy.
with Dr. Melissa Robinson-Winemiller
Empathy is the most overused word in leadership right now. Everyone says it. Almost nobody does it. Dr. Melissa Robinson-Winemiller joins Des and Ashley to break down the 43 types of empathy, why self-empathy is the leadership foundation everyone skips, and why the hiring process is the least empathic experience companies offer.
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Episode 10
Bargains Are Bunk: The Truth About Pay
with David Turetsky
Compensation isn't a math problem — it's a truth-telling problem. David Turetsky brings 35+ years in compensation, a U.S. patent on performance-driven pay tech, and zero patience for the salary band shortcuts HR has used to underpay people for decades.
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Episode 9
Early Career Hiring: What is different?
with Lori Golden
Lori Golden brings 27+ years of recruiting experience to unpack why the hiring market feels so disconnected for Gen Z candidates and employers alike — and why companies quietly pulled back from investing in early career talent.
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Episode 8
Clockout with Erin Riska
with Erin Riska
Erin shares how curiosity, flexibility, and a healthy dose of irreverence shaped her work as a fractional talent strategist and writer. From building better candidate experiences to designing people-first recruiting systems, her story is equal parts grit and wanderlust.
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Episode 7
AI Isn’t Replacing Recruiters — Bad Leadership Is.
with Oscar Chavez
Recruiting isn’t broken because of AI. It’s broken because too many companies reduced recruiting to speed, admin work, and “paper pushing” long before AI entered the conversation.
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Episode 6
Are Recruiting Models Broken... or Just Misunderstood?
with Chloe Ryan, VP Talent Solutions, WSI Talent Sync
We dig into whether the traditional recruiting model is truly broken or if we just need to rethink how we use it.

Episode 5
CSI: Hiring Funnel — AI Fraud, Fake Candidates & Trust Signals
with Maryam Mahdaviani, CEO of Attesto
The rise of AI-generated resumes, deepfake interviews, and how to build trust signals into your hiring process.

Episode 4
Is the Resume Dead? AI Screening & the New Hiring Front Door
with Mayur Macwan, CEO, Roundone.ai
Are resumes still relevant in an AI-first world? We explore the future of candidate screening.

Episode 3
What Hiring Lost (and How We Get It Back)
with Mark Lane
A look at what the hiring process has lost over the years and practical steps to bring humanity back.

Episode 2
Building the Table: Leadership, Power & The Climb
with Special Guest
How to build your own seat at the table — leadership lessons from the trenches of talent acquisition.

Episode 1
Interviewing is Broken... or Just Exposed?
with Victoria Gates & Lorna Erickson
Two experts join us to dissect why interviewing feels so broken and what a better process looks like.
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