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The Talent You Were Trained to Throw Away
with Chason Forehand
“People-first” is the most overused, underutilized phrase on LinkedIn. Everyone says it. Almost nobody does it.
This week, Des and Ashley sit down with Chason Forehand — chef with 45+ years in the culinary world, founder of HR-4U Inc. (a four-time Platinum Seal of Transparency nonprofit), creator of Transformation Kitchen™ (now operating in Nicaragua with locations coming to New York, Beacon, and Australia), and co-host of the Time2CHANGE podcast.
But before all of that, Chason was a kid in an abusive home. A drug addict hiding in plain sight. Homeless. Incarcerated. Food-insecure. Until a Michelin-track chef put three piles in front of him and decided to pay it forward.
This episode is what happens when someone who has lived on every side of “unhireable” sits down with two recruiters who believe they can change the wealth gap without a single piece of legislation. It's a conversation about action over words, profits versus people, and the responsibility that sits in every job description, salary band, and “culture fit” decision recruiters make.
This is one to listen to twice.
What You'll Hear
- How one person's decision to pay it forward changed the trajectory of a life — and what that means for every hiring decision you make
- Why Transformation Kitchen™ is redefining workforce development for the people the system wrote off
- The real cost of "culture fit" screening — and who gets filtered out before they ever get a chance
- Profits vs. people: why the conversation doesn't have to be either/or
- What it actually looks like to change the wealth gap from inside the talent function
- Why "unhireable" is a label we created — and how we can uncreate it
- Action over words: what people-first looks like when it's actually practiced
About the Guest
Chason Forehand is a chef with 45+ years in the culinary world, founder of HR-4U Inc. (a four-time Platinum Seal of Transparency nonprofit), and creator of Transformation Kitchen™ — a workforce development program operating in Nicaragua with expansion underway in New York, Beacon, and Australia. He is also co-host of the Time2CHANGE podcast. His life's work centers on turning systemic barriers into pathways — and proving that the talent companies throw away is often the talent they need most.
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