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Empathy Is Not Soft. It's a Damn Strategy.
with Dr. Melissa Robinson-Winemiller
Empathy is the most overused word in leadership right now. Everyone says it. Almost nobody does it.
This week, Des and Ashley sit down with Dr. Melissa Robinson-Winemiller — TEDx speaker, international bestselling author of The Empathic Leader, host of The Empathic Leader podcast, and the founder of EQ via Empathy. Two doctorates, an MBA, a master's in data analytics, and a personal story that turned losing a career into a mission.
She came armed with research, receipts, and the data point that stopped Ashley mid-sentence: there are 43 distinct types of empathy — and most leaders are only using one of them (badly).
This one isn't about feelings. It's about strategy. Get in.
What You'll Learn
- The 43 types of empathy — and why "feeling what someone feels" is only 1/43rd of it
- Why self-empathy is the foundation every leader skips (and the 35% leadership burnout rate it creates)
- Niceness vs. kindness — why one is gift wrap and the other is the real work
- Dark empathy — how psychopaths, narcissists, and Machiavellians use cognitive empathy as a manipulation tool (and how to spot it)
- Where the hiring process is the LEAST empathic experience companies offer
- Why performance reviews are quietly robbing your team of growth
- How to handle layoffs and terminations without leaving wreckage
- Whether AI has empathy (spoiler: no, and the new term we coined for what it does have)
About the Guest
Dr. Melissa Robinson-Winemiller holds two doctorates, an MBA, and a master's in data analytics. She is a TEDx speaker, international bestselling author of The Empathic Leader, host of The Empathic Leader podcast, and founder of EQ via Empathy. Her work centers on translating empathy from a soft concept into a rigorous, research-backed leadership strategy.
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